Which To Buy?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by DodgeDriver, Feb 26, 2007.

  1. DodgeDriver

    jim beam Guest

    what's that based on? analysis? manufacturer spec?
     
    jim beam, Mar 3, 2007
    #81
  2. DodgeDriver

    jim beam Guest

    what's that based on? analysis? manufacturer spec?
     
    jim beam, Mar 3, 2007
    #82
  3. DodgeDriver

    Brian Smith Guest

    Common sense, really. Since implementing this procedure, transmission
    problems and failures have ceased to occur. The replacement of the
    transmission fluid and the filtres cost in the range of $300.00 to $400.00,
    much less expensive than repairing or replacing an Allison transmission in a
    large truck.
     
    Brian Smith, Mar 3, 2007
    #83
  4. DodgeDriver

    Brian Smith Guest

    Common sense, really. Since implementing this procedure, transmission
    problems and failures have ceased to occur. The replacement of the
    transmission fluid and the filtres cost in the range of $300.00 to $400.00,
    much less expensive than repairing or replacing an Allison transmission in a
    large truck.
     
    Brian Smith, Mar 3, 2007
    #84
  5. DodgeDriver

    Brian Smith Guest

    Common sense, really. Since implementing this procedure, transmission
    problems and failures have ceased to occur. The replacement of the
    transmission fluid and the filtres cost in the range of $300.00 to $400.00,
    much less expensive than repairing or replacing an Allison transmission in a
    large truck.
     
    Brian Smith, Mar 3, 2007
    #85
  6. DodgeDriver

    jim beam Guest

    i'm interested to know - have you established from testing that the
    lower failure rate is a function of this maint. schedule, or has allison
    changed anything in their transmissions? and what was the failure mode?
    metal fatigue for instance is not known to be influenced by oil filter
    cleanliness. clutch life isn't rally affected by it either. operation
    tends to get less smooth as particulates accumulate, but that's not
    necessarily going to affect overall life of the transmission.
     
    jim beam, Mar 3, 2007
    #86
  7. DodgeDriver

    jim beam Guest

    i'm interested to know - have you established from testing that the
    lower failure rate is a function of this maint. schedule, or has allison
    changed anything in their transmissions? and what was the failure mode?
    metal fatigue for instance is not known to be influenced by oil filter
    cleanliness. clutch life isn't rally affected by it either. operation
    tends to get less smooth as particulates accumulate, but that's not
    necessarily going to affect overall life of the transmission.
     
    jim beam, Mar 3, 2007
    #87
  8. DodgeDriver

    jim beam Guest

    i'm interested to know - have you established from testing that the
    lower failure rate is a function of this maint. schedule, or has allison
    changed anything in their transmissions? and what was the failure mode?
    metal fatigue for instance is not known to be influenced by oil filter
    cleanliness. clutch life isn't rally affected by it either. operation
    tends to get less smooth as particulates accumulate, but that's not
    necessarily going to affect overall life of the transmission.
     
    jim beam, Mar 3, 2007
    #88
  9. DodgeDriver

    Brian Smith Guest

    In the past the transmission fluid and filtres hadn't been changed
    except when the transmissions displayed problems (not shifting correctly,
    jumping in and out of gear). Once I implemented the yearly changes, there
    have been no further issues with any of the transmissions. The down time
    that was experienced in the past was a killer on the schedules. They are
    specialized trucks and one can't rent replacements from Ryder, so they have
    to be working properly every day, all day long.
     
    Brian Smith, Mar 3, 2007
    #89
  10. DodgeDriver

    Brian Smith Guest

    In the past the transmission fluid and filtres hadn't been changed
    except when the transmissions displayed problems (not shifting correctly,
    jumping in and out of gear). Once I implemented the yearly changes, there
    have been no further issues with any of the transmissions. The down time
    that was experienced in the past was a killer on the schedules. They are
    specialized trucks and one can't rent replacements from Ryder, so they have
    to be working properly every day, all day long.
     
    Brian Smith, Mar 3, 2007
    #90
  11. DodgeDriver

    Brian Smith Guest

    In the past the transmission fluid and filtres hadn't been changed
    except when the transmissions displayed problems (not shifting correctly,
    jumping in and out of gear). Once I implemented the yearly changes, there
    have been no further issues with any of the transmissions. The down time
    that was experienced in the past was a killer on the schedules. They are
    specialized trucks and one can't rent replacements from Ryder, so they have
    to be working properly every day, all day long.
     
    Brian Smith, Mar 3, 2007
    #91
  12. DodgeDriver

    E Meyer Guest

    Good for you. I think it is completely safe to say the vast majority of car
    owners do whatever maintenance is specified by the owners manual or less,
    not more. If it is all that important, the manufacturer would have
    specified something.

    I'm talking about maintenance religiously conducted according to
    manufacturer's recommendations, no more, no less. If you follow the books
    to the letter, Honda requires more upkeep than Nissan does.
     
    E Meyer, Mar 4, 2007
    #92
  13. DodgeDriver

    E Meyer Guest

    Good for you. I think it is completely safe to say the vast majority of car
    owners do whatever maintenance is specified by the owners manual or less,
    not more. If it is all that important, the manufacturer would have
    specified something.

    I'm talking about maintenance religiously conducted according to
    manufacturer's recommendations, no more, no less. If you follow the books
    to the letter, Honda requires more upkeep than Nissan does.
     
    E Meyer, Mar 4, 2007
    #93
  14. DodgeDriver

    E Meyer Guest

    Good for you. I think it is completely safe to say the vast majority of car
    owners do whatever maintenance is specified by the owners manual or less,
    not more. If it is all that important, the manufacturer would have
    specified something.

    I'm talking about maintenance religiously conducted according to
    manufacturer's recommendations, no more, no less. If you follow the books
    to the letter, Honda requires more upkeep than Nissan does.
     
    E Meyer, Mar 4, 2007
    #94
  15. And the end result is that Hondas experience less non-routine problems than
    Nissans do.
     
    High Tech Misfit, Mar 4, 2007
    #95
  16. And the end result is that Hondas experience less non-routine problems than
    Nissans do.
     
    High Tech Misfit, Mar 4, 2007
    #96
  17. And the end result is that Hondas experience less non-routine problems than
    Nissans do.
     
    High Tech Misfit, Mar 4, 2007
    #97
  18. DodgeDriver

    jim beam Guest

    ok, if filter clogging is an issue, then it's good to change them.

    this should have been revealed in failure analysis though, not be the
    result of what is, with respect, a pretty much random maintenance
    schedule. in an ideal world, you'd have had the manufacturer work with
    you to figure this stuff out, not just gouge you for new transmissions.
     
    jim beam, Mar 4, 2007
    #98
  19. DodgeDriver

    jim beam Guest

    ok, if filter clogging is an issue, then it's good to change them.

    this should have been revealed in failure analysis though, not be the
    result of what is, with respect, a pretty much random maintenance
    schedule. in an ideal world, you'd have had the manufacturer work with
    you to figure this stuff out, not just gouge you for new transmissions.
     
    jim beam, Mar 4, 2007
    #99
  20. DodgeDriver

    jim beam Guest

    ok, if filter clogging is an issue, then it's good to change them.

    this should have been revealed in failure analysis though, not be the
    result of what is, with respect, a pretty much random maintenance
    schedule. in an ideal world, you'd have had the manufacturer work with
    you to figure this stuff out, not just gouge you for new transmissions.
     
    jim beam, Mar 4, 2007
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