Who does NOT agree that Honda should fire their designers

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by irnmdn, Aug 21, 2005.

  1. irnmdn

    irnmdn Guest

    and the guys who hired them.
    In past past 3 years we had Accord, Ridgeline and the upcoming Saturn
    inspired Civic - enough said.
     
    irnmdn, Aug 21, 2005
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  2. What would that solve?
     
    Steve Bigelow, Aug 21, 2005
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  3. I agree that Honda design has gone downhill--at a rate generally the
    same as their product quality.

    I liked the 98-02 Accord look. The 03 model is fugly.

    Now go look at an 06 Hyundai Sonata. They got it right--it's just about
    the same overall look as the Accord, but with the details right.

    Haven't seen the Civic.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Aug 21, 2005
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  4. irnmdn

    SoCalMike Guest

    IMO, the ridgeline is a dud. the element isnt as popular, since the
    scion xB came out with a lower price and better mileage. civic is as
    boring as a focus, and at least the focus offers a hatch. accord styling
    is still slowly growing on me, but i doubt ill ever like it as much as
    the last generation or the one 2 generations before that.

    maybe the jazz will be interesting? i hope.
     
    SoCalMike, Aug 21, 2005
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  5. irnmdn

    Dave Guest

    Not sure about the next gen Civic, but otherwise agree they've been
    on a downhill slope. Though I wouldn't say much positive about
    the last gen Prelude either. Hondas have never been the most
    stylish, but in the past looked clean and light. OTOH, I do like
    the Acura TSX and (sort of) TL.
     
    Dave, Aug 21, 2005
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  6. irnmdn

    Pars Guest

    I'm more about the mechanic rather then the design which should not hamper
    the vehicle's purpose. Example, Mercedes new line of sedan, with a very
    sleek design, but crappy rear head room (which is stupid in my opinion).

    Pars
     
    Pars, Aug 22, 2005
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  7. irnmdn

    Guest Guest

    Agreed - Element, CRV, Ridgeline, Accord and now the fugly new civic.
    Just amazes me how much Honda has gone down hill. While some may like
    the new civics’ interior I find it too busy and cluttered. The new
    civic is larger than the accord of yesterday. We need a new car from
    Honda to replace the civic. Maybe the fit is what is called for. I
    believe a lot is riding on the US release of the fit.
    While other companies have been coming up with great designs that fit a
    nitch in the market I think Honda is relying too much on their product
    reputation and loyalty buyers. They should seriously reconsider their
    design team’s direction.
     
    Guest, Aug 22, 2005
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  8. irnmdn

    Nick Guest

    Sorry to beat a dead horse here but I also agree. I'm not too fond of
    the current Accord (although the 06 with the LEDs looks more
    appealing) and the new 06 Civic looks awful (what were they thinking
    with the steering wheel). I had wished they brought the Euro Accord
    (our TSX) over as the Accord.
    I'm looking to get the TSX, but I wished its interior was available in
    cloth as I throw stuff in the backseat and am afraid of tearing the
    leather.

    Nick
     
    Nick, Aug 22, 2005
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  9. irnmdn

    TWW Guest

    The Accord coupe is OK from my standpoint. And, I have quite a few
    compliments on my 01 Prelude. The Pilot (which we also have) is just
    fine -- certainly at least as appealing as the SUV from other manufacturers.
    As far as quality goes -- no problems with the Pilot or my Prelude.
     
    TWW, Aug 23, 2005
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  10. irnmdn

    Pars Guest

    That's all I've been hearing for the past several generations of Hondas.
    People crying about the styling and the general consensus is, "it's too
    mundane" !. And then, everyone else ends-up copying the same style or
    praising the fact that the style 'grows on you'. These wee-wee brains that
    are all about the style, should be put in the back seat.

    Pars
     
    Pars, Aug 23, 2005
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  11. irnmdn

    Nick Guest

    That's maybe what you have been hearing but I have been hearing
    complaints with this latest generation Accord. I've like the Accord
    line up until the latest gen. Also note that Nissan had the front end
    light design on the Altima before they came out on the Accord. It's
    just that Honda had a bad way of deigning the front grill and rear. If
    you think that Honda was doing such a good job on the most recent
    Accord, then why are they completely changing the back end on the
    sedan in the 06? I'll tell you one reason, decline in sales of the
    Accord.

    Nick
     
    Nick, Aug 23, 2005
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  12. irnmdn

    Guest Guest

    People crying about the styling and the general consensus is, "it's too

    mundane" !. And then, everyone else ends-up copying the same style or

    praising the fact that the style 'grows on you'. These wee-wee brains
    that

    are all about the style, should be put in the back seat.





    These wee-wee brains? With all due respect I’ve owned 5 civics. 93,
    96, 01, 03 and now a 04 SI. I won't own the new model civic. The new
    dash won't grow on me. Can you name any manufacture that has copied
    Hondas Style? Except maybe Kia or Hyundai. Who cares about them? I’m
    talking major manufactures? It's Honda that is copying others. Look at
    the new accord then mosey on over to Nissan. Similar aren't they?



    The wanna be Acura won’t cut it. Who needs navigation in a Civic?
    Are you lost yet? I want a small nimble fuel efficient sporty car.
    Not a baby Acura. I will be going somewhere else for my next car or
    waiting four-five years to see what they do next generation. It can
    only go downhill. What Honda needs to do is bring back the CRX. Or
    better yet the Euro version of the civic with exception to the dash
    which needs to go. It is Fugly.
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    Guest, Aug 23, 2005
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    noydb Guest

    The Acura TSX is just plain gorgeous.
    A REALLY good design.

    The powers that be at Honda just decided that we Americans would be
    satisfied with the current American Accord design.
    Got to give the people a reason to move up to Acura, right ?

    In Europe, Honda didn't have that luxury.
    There's some SERIOUS competition in that category designwise...Citroen
    and Peugot have some beauties...and then there's Alfa-Romeo.
    So they practically HAD to use the TSX as their Accord over there.

    I visited Europe recently, and they have MUCH better looking cars over
    there. A MUCH greater selection in the low to mid-priced sports sedan
    category. Honda sells a car that looks like our current Civic si
    Hatchback, except it has 4 doors . The car is hot.
    A damned shame we can't get it in the US.

    Cheers, --N
     
    noydb, Aug 24, 2005
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    SAC 441 Guest

    With a very few exceptions,I consider BMW's Saab's and Volvo's to be the
    most unstylish vehicles I have ever seen.They are nothing but boxes on
    wheels in my opinion,a LOT worse style wise than any Honda product.To
    each his own I guess.
     
    SAC 441, Aug 24, 2005
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  15. irnmdn

    noydb Guest

    Got to agree with you about the new BMW's.
    Damn, they're ugly.

    Saab also took a step back with their new designs.
    But Volvos are looking good lately. They've got some beauties in the
    pipeline. They're gonna go after the sports sedan market hard.
    Honda still has some great stuff...it's just that a lot of it is in
    Europe and not available in America.
    In my previous post, I was referring specifically to marques that
    aren't available in the US. Peugot has some smoking models all across
    their range. And the Alfas...Damn, you should see one in person.
    Europeans have really embraced the hot hatchback category.
    I really wish we had more of a selection here in the US.

    Cheers, --N
     
    noydb, Aug 24, 2005
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  16. With Ford chassis.

    Wheeee.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Aug 24, 2005
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    Bozo Guest

    Have a look at the next EU civic (not available in US) at
    http://www.honda.co.uk/

    Good lookin eh ???
     
    Bozo, Aug 24, 2005
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  18. irnmdn

    SoCalMike Guest

    im glad they brought it in. i think they went with a bigger car as the
    accord because the market wants that. otherwise, the door would be wide
    open for the camry, and the even bigger stretched avalon.
    yeah. wish the RSX wasnt so freakin boring though.
    yet, grasshopper... yet. if they build it, we will come! all signs point
    to spring for the 4 door jazz/fit to come to the states. too bad its not
    september, but oh well...

    they really need to do something to stem the tide of people flocking to
    the scion xA and xB. the tC is also a nice car for the money, and
    probably a better sport coupe value than the acura RSX.
     
    SoCalMike, Aug 25, 2005
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  19. irnmdn

    SoCalMike Guest

    i can appreciate the subtlety of the BMW and volvo styling, and the way
    they (at least used to) have a common "theme". chris bangle is doing all
    he can to uglify the BMWs, tho.
     
    SoCalMike, Aug 25, 2005
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  20. irnmdn

    SoCalMike Guest

    saab is completely GMs bitch, now. their "new" SUV is a rebadged clone.
    look for them to turn into another isuzu... a lame duck company waiting
    to die.
     
    SoCalMike, Aug 25, 2005
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