why are honda so pricey on insurance?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by froglewis, May 9, 2004.

  1. froglewis

    froglewis Guest

    insurance groups are so high compared to others in their class - why?

    cheers
     
    froglewis, May 9, 2004
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    He Hate Retards and Morons, May 9, 2004
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  3. froglewis

    Sean D Guest

    Well its a combination of things. First, insurance companies set their
    rates based on the accident rates of the vehicles. Since Hondas are
    frequently the best sellers in their class, it stands to reason that more of
    them will be involved in collisions. The insurance companies use this as an
    excuse to charge more by arguing that they are a higher risk vehicle due to
    the number of accidents. (Gotta love how stats can be twisted to say just
    about anything.) Another reason is that Hondas (mostly Civics and older
    Accords) are always on top of the list for stolen cars.
     
    Sean D, May 9, 2004
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  4. froglewis

    Sir Lointip Guest

    Also, Civics and Preludes in particular are very popular among the younger
    crowd. Many of these younger kids like to "rice" them out with excessive
    body add-ons and drive the hell out of them.
     
    Sir Lointip, May 9, 2004
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  5. froglewis

    SAC 441 Guest

    I was told that ONE of the factors in insurance industry pricing ratings
    was the fact that Honda Civics with their VTEC engines are the most
    widely modified vehicles used in the legal and ILLEGAL street racing
    circuits.A lot of 18-35 year olds like to disassemble and reassemble
    them into quarter mile racing machines.And they are the most
    inexpensive(especially used) for this purpose.And a lot of accidents
    happen in illegal street racing.
     
    SAC 441, May 9, 2004
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  6. OTOH, a stock LX model with the non-VTEC engine is cheap to insure
    as nobody touches them for such purposes.
     
    Joseph Oberlander, May 10, 2004
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  7. froglewis

    Saintor Guest

    I disagree. Mine is very low. 550$CAD for an Accord EX-L 1999.
     
    Saintor, May 10, 2004
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  8. froglewis

    Im anonymous Guest

    Believe it or not, they're on the top of the list by sheer numbers,
    because there's LOTS of them out there. By percentages only, Honda
    and Toyota are down in the 80th - 100th place. Geo Metro is 1st or
    2nd. I'm not kidding by the way.
     
    Im anonymous, May 10, 2004
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  9. froglewis

    TWW Guest

    Interesting comment. I am 63 with a clean driving record and no accidents
    (yet). My 01 Prelude insurance is over $1600 per year, more than twice that
    for my wife's Pilot. The problem is that I have a 24 year old on my policy
    with a shaky record, even though he does not drive the Prelude -- has a
    $3,000 10 year old 4 door sedan. BTW liabilty on his car (which is all we
    carry) is almost $800.00 per year. The insurance company figures that if he
    borrows the Prelude he will undoubtedly try to race someone -- and they are
    absolutely correct.
     
    TWW, May 15, 2004
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    Andrew Guest

    When I was recently getting insurance quotes for cars that I was thinking
    about buying, the representative from my insurance company told me that
    they charge more to insure Civics than Accords or TL's because the claim
    rate is higher for Civics. The claim rate is higher because younger, less-
    experienced drivers are more likely to buy Civics.

    Why an older driver who buys a Civic should be penalized, I don't know.

    Andrew
     
    Andrew, May 15, 2004
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  11. froglewis

    Jo Guest

    "Why an older driver who buys a Civic should be penalized, I don't know"

    because statistics are evil!

    I never understood why, when I was 10 miles outside od DC my insurance
    was less than when I moved to EBF (that's East Bum F*ck), NY... Should
    have dropped in my mind (plus I passed one of those imaginary milestones
    by turning 25).
     
    Jo, May 15, 2004
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  12. I think that's a *BIG* presumption on the part of the insurance company:
    "if this happens and that occurs, something else *might* happen". When our
    kids started to drive, it was explained to me that if a car was assigned to
    them it would not affect the insurance on other cars... but if a car was
    not assigned to the youthful drivers, I'd have to pay insurance for them on
    the most expensive car we owned.

    I'm not sure whether that rule was a legal state(NJ) mandated one or if the
    insurance companies could set their own rules. In your situation, I'd look
    for a different insurance company to see if there are more favorable rules.
    I'll add that, when the kids finished college and moved out, I got really
    pissed when the insurance company asked for their new addresses - bloody
    nerve!

    Rgds, George Macdonald

    "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
     
    George Macdonald, May 16, 2004
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