Why cant Toyota or Honda make a car that drives just like a BMW?

bimmers get sent to the scrap yard early, because parts are so expensive.
why spend $1000 on brake parts for a $3000 bimmer?

 

LOL....


nb

 

There were also about 1000 Civics for each Bimmer when new, so ...

Gee, I just spent $65 for new front pads for my '91 525i - I guess I owe
the parts place some money...

Floyd

 

We on the BMW NG are not -- the original poster spammed 3 newsgroups so all we
are doing is answering the crap...... or non crap as the case may be.

Honda build fantastic cars (I say this as a BMW owner) but whereas a 740i BMW
can hit 155 with ease the equivalent Honda cannot but I must agree the ride of
both cars is impeccable but the BM handles just that bit better.

Toyota/Lexus also build great cars but the same sentiments as above apply.

You pays your money and takes your choice.

I used to buy only FORDS --- (UK) but when I came by my first BMW (to own) I
haven't bought another Ford.... other makes yes but not a Ford. The new Euro
Mondeo is a great car but not for me --- sorry!

I have owned other cars going from a rusty Renault to a P400 Lambo and a couple
of Ferraris but to drive everyday and be practical the BMW meet my wishes and as
the adverts say ---- THERE ARE OTHER CAR MAKERS but I don't choose to buy them.

Hugh

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I think you will find that Chris Bangle is American -- we in EURO land refute
that statement - The design element comes from the US so everything that is
being said about general US design stands for the Bangle cars - Ugh!.
Remember the GOLF was the best hand built car in Germany - every other one had
to be completely re-built to correct bad workmanship. Robots cured this minor
problem.

Why not, what has he/she done to upset you? If your mechanic's kids don't go to
college then there won't be any mechanics about when you need them in your old
age.

If they don't graduate into mechanics then they might be doctors, lawyers,
accountants, car salespersons, Wallmart checkout people.... The world need
these people. Are you advocating mass ignorance in order to breed the elite....

Hitler tried that and lost..... so did Saddam Hussain...........!

Hugh


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You know nothing my friend. My history is working with "Jap" cars - the word
JAP is shortened because it is easier to type. I notice you don't pick it up
when I simply refer to American a (US) so don't get you arse wound up over "Jap"
and notice that I use the capital J as respect for the PROPER NOUN as in the
name of the country as in US (but US also stand for Un-Servicable).

I used to build turbo cars for Toyota GB Dealers and never had any complaint.
This kept Toyota in the frame in UK when all other car importers and makers had
fast turbo cars but Toyota didn't at the time - we in the UK did not have the 6
pot Supra at the time and when they decided to import this we were asked to stop
producing the turbos as OE dealer fitted extras as they were faster than the
Supra.

DO NOT slur me on my respect for Japanese cars.

Eff off wanker!

Hugh

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The same happens in Japan --- no old car as it's too expensive to keep them.

BTW Japan exports all their scrap car parts to keep the cars running all over
the world. Especially the US, UK, Africa and Australia.

Hugh

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We do don't we -- just a different shape?

Hugh

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a $3000 bimmer?

Perhaps the major component like the engine tranny, which usually doesn't go bad.
However most of the other parts are probably local. It'd be a disaster if the
local assembly line had to wait for some minor component to be shipped from japan.

Pars

 

BMW doesn't have the engine in the rear! I wonder which 2 wheel drive would be
better in the wet or snow. Also, I've heard that about 80 percent of the Porches
ever made are still on the road (that stat might be a little less now). I
wonder how many of he BMW's that were made are still on the road.

Pars

 

You've aptly discribed the SRT4's character. Just because something's cheap, doesn't mean that it doesn't have character.

BTW, You might have better lock 'pussyfooting' the wife around in a WRX.

Pars

 

Gee, I just spent $65 for new front pads for my '91 525i - I guess I owe

Why? Looks like you overpaid to me.

http://catalog.eautopartscatalog.com/buymb/wizard.jsp?partner=buymb&clientid=buyeuroparts&baseurl=http://www.buyeuroparts.com/&cookieid=0TT0PMLOP&year=1991&make=BM&model=525-I-002&category=N&part=Brake+Pad+Set

 

Do you have any data at all to back that up? Having owned both Hondas and
BMW's for years (right now I have a 330i and a CRV- both superb vehicles), I
can't say I find a big difference in parts prices. BTW, my 87 325is that
my nephew now owns, is still going strong with over 200kmi on the clock.
Original engine, clutch, tranny, rear end. There's lots of those E30's still
running around the streets here.

 

You are talking about low-intelligence
or higher intelligence, but ignorant type
of people.

A friend of mine from Germany laughs
at us over here when we drool over a
Porsche. Don't get me wrong, I am a
little moved by them as well, but the
point is that she claimed that Porsches
in Germany were like GM's over here;
very affordable and found everywhere.

The high-end BMW's I am impressed
with, but that follows suit for most high
end cars of any manufacturer. The BMW
3-series is just a garden variety car to me,
or actually worse...a garden variety car
that is a PITA to own as it is expensive,
expensive to maintain, and has little of a
return in owner satisfaction for that type
of expense.

Unless I give a flip about what others
think...which I don't.

Regards

 

| us driving enthusiast that want a car that drives like a BMW

Spk for yourself ( real thick facial skin ), I want 4ws. European
brands still refuse to admit 4ws is superior to 2ws.

 

Chris Bangle is American but he lives and works in Europe for a
European company. Therefore his work is European. It might have more
or less strong American influences.

I'm European but I live and work in the US for an American
company. The work I do here is most certainly American.

 

That's very largely geographically dependent. Around here, SF Bay
Area, older BMWs are plentyful. Especially older 3 series like E21s
and E30s. There are quite a bit older 5 series, E28 and older, and
even 7 series, E23s and the like.

 

That's my point. Compared to being a 'Jag-you-are', it's 'just' a
Ford. But you're also correct. The basic car is an excellent one,
especially in its price range. I've been very tempted by the SVTs.

If only they weren't all FWD, I'd be in one in a nanosecond. But this
is Wisconsin and I live 25 miles from Road America ...

Sometimes I wish I weren't. It's almost embarassing.

 

Why indeed. I don't know where you've been shopping, but in my experience, BMW
parts are no more expensive than any other -- especially as the cars get older.
And there are plenty of "cheap" Japanese cars with things like $300 taillight
lenses...

Matt O.

 

That has more to do with land values and labor rates in Japan. Plus
ultra-strict vehicle inspections...

Indeed they do...

Matt O.