Why do all the ricers love the Honda Civic?

Who besides VW & Porsche (unless you mean the quantity of engines & not
manufacturers)?

 

Google is your friend. Without doing any searching, I can name Fiat for
example, as one of the more famous ones. Then there's Citroen, Tatra,
and a number of diesel engines and lesser known makes that no longer
exist. Plus a bunch of airplane engines, Lycoming and whatnot. So very
much is possible, if you have the will, the time, and happen to own a
machine shop.

I don't know what parts were used, even VW's own cylinders could be
bored considerably larger. Today nobody bothers to have them bored,
because aftermarket parts are available that are larger to begin with.
Stock 1500 and 1600 engines could be bored out to 1700, and same applies
to 1300 as long as youi machine the head opening larger too. From 1300
to 1700, and throw in a custom made cam with insane duration, and lots
of manual headwork, and aggressive lightening of all moving or rotating
parts.

Today the race class rules limit induction and displacement, engines in
a beetlöe cannot be larger than 1649cc. These pump out 150hp and more
today. Still very few aftermarket parts are used, due to class rules
forcing you to sell the car at a fixed price. (Not nearly as much as it
costs to build a winning engine).

Jan

 

Well now Mark. I can only speak for the ACVW group, but we don't
need no high powered overpowered high torque monstered motors to be cool
or pick up chicks with. The girls all know that we ACVW's are extremely
thorough and careful and pay very special attention to all the "little
details" that are the most important to keeping a fine classic car going.
They also know that we do the same for them donchaknow......*8-}

 

http://www.oceanstreetvideo.com/video/sacbor53racerecap.zip

aircooled VW racing....

=-)


....Gareth

 

Why does anyone expect downforce to the car when thr wing is only attached
to the trunk lid?If the car went fast enough to create significant amoumts
of downforce(120mph+),the trunklid would collapse.Race cars mount the wings
to the frame(something street cars lack being mono in construction)and they
attain speeds high enough for aero aids to funtion.Otherwise,it's for looks.

 

looks.

On the EVO 8 the rear spoiler uses carbon fiber-reinforced plastic for both
the horizontal and vertical components. This means it's VERY strong. It was
also moved moved 58mm rearward from the EVO 7 spoiler position into an area
where the airstream is faster, producing 1.7 times more downforce. If the
spoiler was just for show then why would they bother? They'd just stick a
huge plastic POS spoiler on the back like a ricer does. It'd certainly be
cheaper.

 

How is it attached to the frame?

 

Please don't feed the troll.

 

Jan Andersson wrote:

But 30 years ago you were not running 6 second 1/4 miles with the
same engine. If there were no interest in hot rodding that engine it
would not have gotten that far and nothing would have come of it.
Just like the Civic. 130 HP in 1974 from a modified 4 cylinder
compared to 600+ HP from a V8.

 

No it is a well informed reply. I have seen with my own eyes an
air cooled VW flat 4 powered vehicle run in the 8's at a local drag
strip. How many 2.3 Fords have you seen or heard of doing the same
thing?

 

TCS wrote:

ROFL. That question brings to mind a Mitsu with a HUGE tall wing like
the Daytona, so the trunk lid can open. The difference of course from
the ricer being that the wing tall enough for the trunk to open would
be ON the trunk...

 

The MOPAR engineers raised the horizontal element to clear the trunk and
discovered it was now twice as effective because it was up in the clean
airflow over the roof.Weren't they about the most awesome American car ever?

 

Indeed it is.

Diesels, airplane engines??? We're discussing souping up cars.

 

to be more specific Jan was talking about souping up aircooled VW's by
using parts sourced from other vehicles...and *adapting* them for the
acvw....so aircooled diesels and aircooled airplane engines(which was
an answer to your previous question of who other than vw or porsche
had aircooled engines 30 years ago) are very much a source for parts
to "work" with our little engines...
JT

 

Are they!! Learn something new (almost) every day.

What kinds of parts from an air cooled aircraft engine can you use on an
air cooled VW engine?

 

It doesn't need to be.

 

You are not following the lesson. These are only used as parts sources.
Creativity still existed 30 years ago.
Now all we have is copycats.

Jan

 

I am by no means an expert in this, but I have seen cylinders and
pistons being used. (much, much larger, and high quality... )

Jan

 

Of course, since the spoiler serves no function except as dorkage.

 

Vince if i didn't know any better i would think you are being
arguementative....Our beloved vw's didn't come from the factory with
all the goodies we have at our fingertips today...the aftermarket
companies are well known for "adaptin" parts from other makes and even
other markets for our use...chevy rods did not come factory in our
cars, but are quite often found in them these days...as to which parts
can be used from an air cooled aircraft, not sure of specifics, but
send me some parts and i will test fit them<G> Bob Hoover(guru in the
vw world) modifies toyota distributors to use in vw's....many many
people in the vw "industry" use parts that were NEVER intended to be
under out decklid....
JT