Why do all the ricers love the Honda Civic?

I am no expert on VW air cooled engines,but Lycomings are RADIAL engines
aren't they? How could parts from a radial engine work in a car engine?

 

Utter rubbish! What race cars have frames?... oh you mean the GrandAm
series? Calling those race-cars is a bit of a stretch.:-[] Where the hell
do you think monocoque originated?... see Chapman et.al. Modern racing
cars have a carbon fiber tub which is basically a monocoque, with carbon
fibre aero elements fastened (bolted, Unbrako fastener or glued) to it and
cosmetic+aero body bits fastened on. Your speed for onset of aero effects
is also way too high - see WRC rally cars. IOW, your knowledge of
aerodynamics is err, limited.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

 

What an annoying-as-hell thread. Jesus Christ, people. Who gives a
shit why so many people like to put a coffee can exhaust tip on their
farking honda? There are LOTS of stupid-ass people in the world. No
need to question everything they do or you'll waste way too much time.
I'm glad I could clear that up for those of you who are OBVIOUSLY too
damn stupid to realize that on your own. For anyone who wants to
flame me over this post I only have this acronym to throw in your
dumbass direction: FOAD.

--

Less drivel, more Dremel.
Always carry a flagon of whiskey in case of snakebite,
and furthermore always carry a small snake.
- W.C. Fields

 

To Shaggie ():

Thankyou for your kind posting.I hope you have a better day
tomorrow.Obviously,today is not a good day for you.

 

Kinda' liberal with your use of gasoline there ain'tcha Shag??? !:~)

 

................I don't know John. I thought that this was one of the more
lucid moments in Travis' on again-off again history here at RAMVA. I can't
imagine ever wanting a tricked out CRX myself. But I don't see the point in
looking down on those who do like them. Everyone needs to find their own
Nirvana whichever way they can. At least they aren't going around chopping
up vintage ACVWs with a sawzall..............lol

 

Glad you know better - I've owned VW's & Porsches and had friends who
were heavily into hot rodding (but not air cooled engines) and hadn't
heard of anyone using diesel or aircreft parts in an auto engine. As I
said, learn something new every day.

Thus my bewilderment.

 

well Vince its not so much that we use those diesel or aircraft parts
specifically, just that alot of parts are borrowed and adapted from
other sources....been that way for years....
JT

 

Uh Dude.ALL race cars have frames,tubular or otherwise.You must be smoking
rubbish.

 

Ah,by the way Georgy,I seem to remember mono construction came to cars from
the aircraft industry and there are several websites that explain aero
forces at different speeds.I suggest you look at them before telling anyone
else that aero effects are substantial under 100 mph.WRC cars at slower
speeds are so sideways that fixed wings only add weight .If you want to
believe your Subie needs its plastic wing(CF look)go ahead.

 

mine didn't...it had a uni-body car that had a rollcage added, and a
couple stiffeners on the underside...but no "frame"...
JT

 

Christ you can't even get your thoughts straight so have to brain-fart
twice - a 2nd time to your own post and you don;t even quote it. It's not
only about downforce sonny - it's aerodynamic balance which is quite a
subtle effect - substantial doesn't matter when you have "enough". The
"sideways" is yaw in aero terms and the aero-balance of the car in that
attitude is extremely important at well under 100mph.

BTW I do not have a emm, Subie and yes, most wings *are* reinforced plastic
resin, even racing cars.

You're the one who brought up a difference between "mono" and "frame" -
apparently you don't understand the difference - better move along before
you get any deeper in the caca.

Rgds, George Macdonald

"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??

 

Nope, he didn't "puss" out as you say......he used his HEAD!
The only safe place to race is on a strip Period!
I've scraped up the remains of too many IDIOTS off the streets
after they have slammed into someone else, or each other trying to
prove how big their gonads are.

 

When there's a will, there's a way.
I can't see why the same tricks could not be used in other cars as well.
Granted, when the engine block and cylinders are all one piece casting,
it's hard to get more displacement from it. Not always room for a
stroker crank anyway. So... utilize an engine block from another car. Or
do what was done in the aircooled VW scene: Design a whole new case
and start manufacturing them. From less than 1000cc's up beyond 3
liters. Where the puny little sewing machine was never intended to go.
Double the rpm, and multiply original power output by factors that have
two digits.


This conversation strongly brings one sad fact to surface, in case you
didn't notice it before from what I wrote.

I fear the day when "people" don't do this anymore. The new generations
(hey, I'm only 32 myself) are not willing to experiment and think out of
the box. Now everyone buys their parts based on magazine ads, often from
the same sources, ending up with roughly identical engines every time.
We are facing a threat here: what will happen if there are no more
adventurous, technically gifted people out there who are willing to try
out new things, mix and match parts that don't naturally go together?
People who get crazy ideas in the evening when they have gone to bed for
the night, and they groggily get up one last time to scribble some notes
on paper, or sketch a drawing in a notebook or a napkin, only *then*
calling it a day, scratching their balls, kissing their wives goodnight
and closing their eyes for the night? (I don't claim to be a great
thinker or innovator, but I keep a notebook on my nightstand for this
purpose). (And I do scratch my balls. It's a guy thing. You know. )

We, the hobby, need these people. Not blind, lazy, comfort-seeking kids
who were taught that everything can be bought from a store, ready made
by someone else.

Same with enthusiasts of ANY car make or model. Same with all other
hobbies, and product development in all areas of life.

We are getting lazy. Because the easy solution can be mail ordered
today. Someone else had that great idea, and had the energy, time, and
will to produce first test versions, live through the pains of failures
because they KNEW they were on to something. They kept on pushing
through, disappointment after disappointment, friends and family calling
them crazy. (Ok, so some of us get that for so many other reasons

Go out for a walk. Go to a car show or an event of some such. Look at
the people there. Play a game in your mind, pick 20 people at random,
and put them on "mechanic survivor". A lonely garage in the middle of a
desert, and a leatherman tool. Some rusty old car parts in an abandoned
shed. No comforts. Limited supply of beer. See who drives home in a
3-wheeled V-3 hotrod that runs on cactus juice, and who starts looking
for a wall outlet so they could charge their mobile phones so they could
call a cab to take them home.

I'm sometimes worried. The whole world might get used to the easy
solutions. We'd get stuck with no innovation. No innovations in an area
such as ours here, could possibly lead to it's demise in the long run.

Thank God we have people who still THINK. And EXPERIMENT.
(Oh I could list a few reasonably new innovations in the VW hobby to
keep the crowd entertained, like Super Squish pistons, nickasils,
Magnasquirt, etc.... but I'll pass )

Oops, I guess I got a little carried away. Sorry. You may contact my
lawyer to discuss compensation for my wasting your time

Jan

 

Nah.

 

Jan Andersson wrote:

That was supposed to read MegaSquirt
Shouldn't write newsgroup messages in the middle of the night...

Jan

 

And I should add that I don't mean to belittle or look down on people,
"kiddies" if you will,
who choose to go the easy route and buy everything ready made, and clone
engines from others.
It's ok. They bring the volume to the business, which creates revenue,
profit even, which in
turn makes further product development possible. For those
(manufacturers) who care to push the envelope and get creative. The
"rest" of us (consumers, "kiddies" et al) just enjoy the low prices
brought forth by high demand of "standard" go-fast goodies.



Ok ok, I'll shut up now.

Jan

 

In most cases, street racing puts more hair on your chest.

 

Sounds as though you've never driven on a track. Nothing on the highway,
not even 130 mph up the Garden State Parkway, prepares you for (or is
remotely like) the first time you drive on a real track (e.g., Lime
Rock, where I was lucky to see 100 mph at the end of the straight). At
least that was my experience. YMMV, of course.

I've never had any real interest in drag racing, if that's a factor.

 

funnily enough, neither have most of the groups you're crossposting
this shite to.