Why Engines Seize?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Tazzy_gal, Apr 20, 2004.

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    Tazzy_gal Guest

    Today my 88 Accord Coupe DX engine seized up. There was oil, no
    knocking, it just stopped. Only heat malfunction indication I ever got
    was occasionally when the temperature needle would climb towards the H
    while idling at a fast food place. I also have trans trouble (4th gear
    slipping) and the AC was blowing warm. The mechanics put a breaker bar
    on it and using two guys, couldn't get it to move or turn over. Very
    depressing, any thoughts or help? My mechanic recommended I get a new
    or used car, given my finacial circumstances. I needed to put a new
    water pump on it as well as a new power steering pump.

    --Tazzy
     
    Tazzy_gal, Apr 20, 2004
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    John Ings Guest

    You possibly had a broken timing belt. Pull the top timing belt cover
    and have a look.
     
    John Ings, Apr 20, 2004
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    Jafir Elkurd Guest

    You can have plenty of oil in the pan, but if the pump cannot get it out, it
    won't do any good. You might have had a blocked pickup screen. Did you
    notice a blinking oil light? Also, if there was mechanical failure, like a
    broken connecting rod or something, the engine could have locked up not
    matter how much oil was available.

    Another possibility (which I've only seen once... in a 1985 accord) is that
    the automatic transmission is what's locked up. You might have the shop see
    if they can check that... perhaps unbolting the torque converter from the
    flexplate.
     
    Jafir Elkurd, Apr 20, 2004
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  4. Rapid heating at idle indicates a serious problem. Something in the
    engine may have cracked or bent from thermal stress; cold shrinkage and
    hot expansion fighting each other. Such forces can warp and crack solid
    metal.
     
    Kevin McMurtrie, Apr 20, 2004
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    John Horner Guest

    My mechanic recommended I get a new

    Whatever the failure is, it sounds like your car is way beyond the point of
    making economic sense to repair. It is almost surely ready for the scrap
    yard.

    Something mechanical failed hard inside the engine or transmission.

    John
     
    John Horner, Apr 20, 2004
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  6. My guess is the water pump stopped working and the engine seized.
     
    Joseph Oberlander, Apr 20, 2004
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    Tazzy_gal Guest

    The timing belt was fine they said...they are scratching their heads
    over it, and I just am Sick over it, cause I had the car forever...
     
    Tazzy_gal, Apr 20, 2004
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  8. Well, time to get an newer car to have "forever" :)
     
    Joseph Oberlander, Apr 20, 2004
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    Sean Dinh Guest

    I opened a seized V6 once. The bearings somehow wedged over each other in one of the crankshaft
    journal. That engine had major engine wear.
     
    Sean Dinh, Apr 20, 2004
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    z Guest

    I'd be inclined to do a little investigation before giving it up for
    dead. Maybe pull the head, maybe drop the oil pan, maybe even drop the
    transmission. If you don't want to replace it if you don't have to, I
    mean. Could well be something seized up around the trans end. Is this
    an automatic, btw, like I'm thinking? Anyway, I have vague visions of
    busted up torque converter or clutch
    pieces jamming in the housing.
    In the past I've had water pumps break and jam on me, but that didn't
    seize the engine, it just broke the belt. If they say the timing belt
    is OK, then it's not likely to be the disastrous valve/head crash.
    Although a timing belt can slip a cog or two....
    Just plain metal to metal seizing, typically the rings to the cylinder
    walls, is usually from sitting unused for a few months, and I've had
    good long term results just getting a large vehicle to bump the damn
    thing and bust it loose, if that's all there is.
    If it's crank/bearing type problems, put new ones in.
    Now when I bought the Corvair whose con rod had seized, broken, and
    smashed through the crankcase wall, that engine was pretty much
    unfixable....
     
    z, Apr 20, 2004
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