Why Not Let Honda Et Al. Take Over GM?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Elle, Dec 9, 2008.

  1. Elle

    Elle Guest

    Is any other Honda enthusiast struck by the U.S. Congress's
    and President's effort to shore up and nationalize companies
    that make terrible automobiles and have long promoted
    gluttony by consumers? Why not instead compel, one way or
    another, mergers with Honda, Toyota, and Subaru or Nissan
    such that they would agree to start new plants, employ many
    of Detroit's former workers, and fill the gap that the
    demise of Detroit's auto companies would unquestionably
    cause?
     
    Elle, Dec 9, 2008
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  2. Elle

    News Guest


    And why would this interest Honda and the others? How much should they
    charge the Big Three to even perform due diligence, let alone take on
    their baggage?
     
    News, Dec 9, 2008
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  3. Elle

    News Guest


    And why would this interest Honda and the others? How much should they
    charge the Big Three to even perform due diligence, let alone take on
    their baggage?
     
    News, Dec 9, 2008
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  4. Elle

    Toommy Guest

    I know in Europe Nissan customers are less than happy

    When Renault of France "joined" Nissan we discovered that instead of
    Renaults becoming more reliable and well built it was Nissan cars that were
    built down to Froggie (apologies:) standards
     
    Toommy, Dec 9, 2008
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  5. Elle

    Toommy Guest

    I know in Europe Nissan customers are less than happy

    When Renault of France "joined" Nissan we discovered that instead of
    Renaults becoming more reliable and well built it was Nissan cars that were
    built down to Froggie (apologies:) standards
     
    Toommy, Dec 9, 2008
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  6. Elle

    Elle Guest

    The government would pay Honda Et Al. for their interest as
    opposed to paying money to the Big 3.
     
    Elle, Dec 9, 2008
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  7. Elle

    Elle Guest

    The government would pay Honda Et Al. for their interest as
    opposed to paying money to the Big 3.
     
    Elle, Dec 9, 2008
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  8. Elle

    Elle Guest

    Keep the workers; throw out big 3 management.
     
    Elle, Dec 9, 2008
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  9. Elle

    Elle Guest

    Keep the workers; throw out big 3 management.
     
    Elle, Dec 9, 2008
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  10. Elle

    News Guest

    I repeat, why would keeping competitors alive interest Honda et al?
     
    News, Dec 9, 2008
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  11. Elle

    News Guest

    I repeat, why would keeping competitors alive interest Honda et al?
     
    News, Dec 9, 2008
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  12. Elle

    Elle Guest

    No no; I am saying let the competitors die. Just move their
    workers to Honda et al. and continue making Hondas, Toyotas
    etc. but not the crappy Fords, GMs, and Chryslers.

    If you have not been reading about the proposed Big 3
    bailout, you are not going to understand this thread.
     
    Elle, Dec 9, 2008
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  13. Elle

    Elle Guest

    No no; I am saying let the competitors die. Just move their
    workers to Honda et al. and continue making Hondas, Toyotas
    etc. but not the crappy Fords, GMs, and Chryslers.

    If you have not been reading about the proposed Big 3
    bailout, you are not going to understand this thread.
     
    Elle, Dec 9, 2008
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  14. Elle

    News Guest

    Ha ha. If you don't understand international competitive dynamics and
    game theory, you are over your head.
     
    News, Dec 9, 2008
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  15. Elle

    News Guest

    Ha ha. If you don't understand international competitive dynamics and
    game theory, you are over your head.
     
    News, Dec 9, 2008
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  16. Elle

    Elle Guest

    So you are unaware of the bailout. Wrong thread for you.
     
    Elle, Dec 9, 2008
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  17. Elle

    Elle Guest

    So you are unaware of the bailout. Wrong thread for you.
     
    Elle, Dec 9, 2008
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  18. Elle

    rick++ Guest

    I read an interesting tongue-in-check proposal to
    have Steve Jobs take over GM. When Steve left
    Apple for eight years to run NeXT and Pixar,
    Apple pretty much became the GM of computers-
    almost bankrupt, stoogy old product lines,
    excessive model types, etc.
    When Steve returned he dumped non-core functions
    such as manufacturing, cut product lines by 2/3rds,
    and returned style to the lineup.

    http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/2008/pulpit_20081207_005508.html
     
    rick++, Dec 9, 2008
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  19. Elle

    rick++ Guest

    I read an interesting tongue-in-check proposal to
    have Steve Jobs take over GM. When Steve left
    Apple for eight years to run NeXT and Pixar,
    Apple pretty much became the GM of computers-
    almost bankrupt, stoogy old product lines,
    excessive model types, etc.
    When Steve returned he dumped non-core functions
    such as manufacturing, cut product lines by 2/3rds,
    and returned style to the lineup.

    http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/2008/pulpit_20081207_005508.html
     
    rick++, Dec 9, 2008
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  20. Elle

    Tony Hwang Guest

    Hi,
    Big 3 can make cars superior to Honda and others. If top game caller is
    engineering backgroundtype. Book keeper type has had top jobs who
    created wrong market/product strategy. Management style has to change
    to produce cars people want to buy. They've been producing cars they
    want to sell(same old technology with new skins), not the cars people want.
     
    Tony Hwang, Dec 9, 2008
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