Why Not Let Honda Et Al. Take Over GM?

Hi,
Big 3 can make cars superior to Honda and others. If top game caller is
engineering backgroundtype. Book keeper type has had top jobs who
created wrong market/product strategy. Management style has to change
to produce cars people want to buy. They've been producing cars they
want to sell(same old technology with new skins), not the cars people want.

 

And you don't know what you don't know. Good luck to you.

 

And you don't know what you don't know. Good luck to you.

 

Why would an engineer have a better grasp of market and
product strategy compared to a business person? Especially
American engineers who are as interested in muscle cars as
any teenage boy.

Do you really doubt that people's desires did not drive the
demand for SUVs?

Lastly, consider (1) how many years it would take to put out
yet another Big 3 model and that (2) the new model may or
may not be successful to keep the company afloat. (As Rick
suggested, part of the problem is the Big 3 make too many
different models.) Why take our tax dollars and gamble? Is
this as good a decision as compelling Honda, Toyota, etc. to
simply absorb the Big 3's labor force and continue to put
out cars we know are reliable? Friggin' government is not
even talking to Honda or Toyota.

 

Why would an engineer have a better grasp of market and
product strategy compared to a business person? Especially
American engineers who are as interested in muscle cars as
any teenage boy.

Do you really doubt that people's desires did not drive the
demand for SUVs?

Lastly, consider (1) how many years it would take to put out
yet another Big 3 model and that (2) the new model may or
may not be successful to keep the company afloat. (As Rick
suggested, part of the problem is the Big 3 make too many
different models.) Why take our tax dollars and gamble? Is
this as good a decision as compelling Honda, Toyota, etc. to
simply absorb the Big 3's labor force and continue to put
out cars we know are reliable? Friggin' government is not
even talking to Honda or Toyota.

 

Likewise chief.

 

Likewise chief.

 

You got the last part right.

 

You got the last part right.

 

It's all correct, troll.

 

It's all correct, troll.

 

Be sure to let us know when yout deal closes.

Better not hold your breath, you ignorant snot.

 

Be sure to let us know when yout deal closes.

Better not hold your breath, you ignorant snot.

 

That's essentially what the British government did with BMH (priorly BMC)
and Leyland in the late '60s. The marriage was fatal then, and it would be
fatal if attempted again.

Individuals operating within a governmental structure make stupidly bad
decisions. Period. Full stop.

There is a /real/ solution, but it's one that is politically impossible,
given how democratic politicians value their necks.

 

That's essentially what the British government did with BMH (priorly BMC)
and Leyland in the late '60s. The marriage was fatal then, and it would be
fatal if attempted again.

Individuals operating within a governmental structure make stupidly bad
decisions. Period. Full stop.

There is a /real/ solution, but it's one that is politically impossible,
given how democratic politicians value their necks.

 

I dunno, but I think that Import car companies that assemble product in
the US would steer far and wide to avoid hiring former overpaid Detroit
style assemblers.

Personally, I think that GM needs to downsize its domestic operation by
at least 50% and concentrate on already profitable overseas activities.

JT

 

I dunno, but I think that Import car companies that assemble product in
the US would steer far and wide to avoid hiring former overpaid Detroit
style assemblers.

Personally, I think that GM needs to downsize its domestic operation by
at least 50% and concentrate on already profitable overseas activities.

JT

 

Not really a fair comparison. Apple was never in debt and in fact
during its darkest days still had over a billion $$$ in cash. Also, the
company was already turning around under Gil (the Italian guy).

Yeah, Jobs does have a certain talent for pizzaze that takes advantage
of the mooing masses.

He's also responsible for some bombs... The Cube comes to mind first.

Oh, and the transfer of manufacturing to China has hurt in the
dependability area.

OTOH, having been a long time Mac user, the company certainly is
innovative...

JT

G4 desktop
G4 Powerbook


(Who remembers Michael Dell stating about ten years ago that Apple would
not be part of the computer story in ten years. Ironically, one only
has to look at Apple vs. Dell stock performance over the past ten years.
How I'd like to be a fly on the wall in the Dell boardroom these days..)

 

Not really a fair comparison. Apple was never in debt and in fact
during its darkest days still had over a billion $$$ in cash. Also, the
company was already turning around under Gil (the Italian guy).

Yeah, Jobs does have a certain talent for pizzaze that takes advantage
of the mooing masses.

He's also responsible for some bombs... The Cube comes to mind first.

Oh, and the transfer of manufacturing to China has hurt in the
dependability area.

OTOH, having been a long time Mac user, the company certainly is
innovative...

JT

G4 desktop
G4 Powerbook


(Who remembers Michael Dell stating about ten years ago that Apple would
not be part of the computer story in ten years. Ironically, one only
has to look at Apple vs. Dell stock performance over the past ten years.
How I'd like to be a fly on the wall in the Dell boardroom these days..)

 

Hey, are you one of them thar' robot monkeys walding the unemployment
pavement?

JT