Wiper blades

If you'd actually make an attempt at grammar and capitalization, yes,
we could have an intelligent conversation.

 

----Tegger freely admitted he got his information from product
managers and that he was not a product manager.

---Right, but too bad that's not what I did for the company. Nice try
(just like your grammar skills).

---For a guy whose grammar skills rival a child's, I'm not surprised
at your answer. However, mine happens to be correct.
---I own two Firebirds, but this is a Honda forum, keep it Honda
related.

---No, I'm waiting for you to say something of value. I've yet to read
it here.

---Sure you did, because I educated you.

----I never had a customer come back to me with a Honda that we
installed aftermarket blades on and say, "Take those off, put on the
Honda parts. These are poor quality and the Honda parts are better".
In fact, my friend sold his 1990 Honda Accord to someone else three
years after we put on a pair of Trico Exact Fit blades on it, and they
still worked great.

----You're right. I know how to put a sentence together and you don't.
At least you've gotten one thing right so far.

 

----So you're telling the group that you've taken apart and tested a
Fram made Honda filter and an aftemarket Honda filter for that same
application and have scientific evidence proving this?

Post it so the group can learn something.

---The only thing perverted here is your lack of capitalization and
your knowledge of the automotive parts industry. Both aren't worth a
dime.

 

I know a lot of these guys are wickedly high on shipping, especially
if it's a smaller item, or even one item. It might actually be better
to buy them locally and get a relationship with your local dealer (at
least as a back up), in case you need something.

 

when's the last time you tested for hysteresis losses in the coil cores?
when's the last time you assayed the silica content of the carbon
brushes? how about diode life at 80°C? [he said, not holding his
breath for any kind of meaningful response]

well duh!

well, i guess there's nothing stopping you from making dishonest
statements, misattributing them to someone else, then attacking them.
except that it's childish, weak, and self-defeating.

oh dear - for a guy that "knows about the auto parts industry", you seem
to know nothing about service economics.

no, you're wrong. different distributors were used on different models
over the years because the pickup technology changed. and some bearings
on accords were bad. nothing to do with the igniters after the oki/nec
substitution.

no, what you said was wrong. i just told you.

so they did what frod did and raised the middle finger to their
customers, refused to acknowledge deaths or liabilities, until they
eventually ended up in court? oh, wait, they didn't and you're
misrepresenting the facts again. my bad.

says the guy that's never tested, knows nothing of design and knows
nothing about materials. ignorant only three times is not too bad i guess.

don't bother with the trivia - get to the guts of the issue. well, if
ignorance doesn't get in your way first.

you're like a cat chasing a laser pointer - utterly unable to understand
that someone's yanking your chain.

 

On 11/03/2010 04:49 PM, Joe wrote:
<snip delusional nonsense>

oh, wait, that leaves you saying nothing. oh well.

 

of course. you're badly failing personality assessment 101 if you're
not smart enough to avoid a pedantry argument about this kind of thing.
badly failing.


and have scientific evidence proving this?

of course. but that's not what you wanted to hear.

i'm not going to because:

1. i can't be bothered.

2. it's been done and posted online by others countless times before.

of course, if you had an ounce of curiosity, you'd have looked online
yourself, or even done some dissection yourself, but you're not in the
business of learning anything.

you're right - i don't know what you know of the auto parts industry.
but i don't know what you know about toilet hygiene either. all i know
is engineering design and materials applications, of which the auto
parts industry is just a small section. ho hum.

 

That's the practice I follow. Anything under $50 is not worth to bother
with online. Even if it would save me a couple bucs.

 

If you had an ounce of intelligence, you'd find the CAPS key. But,
that seems beyond you, as well as the auto parts industry. Your end of
the business is one part of the industry, and the newsflash here is
that on newer technology, there aren't going to be many companies out
there ramping up for production because it's expensive to do so.

Of course everyone's seen the filter studies, but you're making a
specific case of something you won't back up with anything but hot
air.

Most aftermarkets would source the OEM part and rebox that. But you
know that now---because I've educated you.

I'm done now with this chat. You're boring me.

 

Sure, that's good thinking. A backup source is always a good idea,
just in case you need it in a hurry. Bound to happen, no matter what
the brand of car (or whatever item we're talking about fixing).

 

Which would beat the hot air you're spewing on this forum.

 

---Last I checked, it was easier to change a distributor cap than the
whole distributor (as well as cheaper). But why not give out
distributors at no charge, cheap enough, right?

--Thanks for playing, but that's the wrong answer. The reason for the
supersession was that Honda had failure after failure and kept
revising the parts. But your Hondanet system would have told you that,
right? Oh that's right, you didn't know what their parts system was
called because you've never used it. Once again, you know now---I've
told you.

----No what you just told the group was that "service economics" would
be that it's easier and better to change the distributor than the one
part that was bad in it.

---Which is contrary to what Tegger stated. Can't you two guys get on
the same page? I forgot, you were out the day they taught reading
comprehension. Same day they taught capitalization and grammar.

-----Which would still make him 10 times smarter than you, but that's
another story.

----I hardly doubt it's a trivia fact that you have zero experience
and knowledge of the auto parts industry. You're a materials guy, not
a product person.

-----The one that you were told as a kid not to stare into because it
wasn't the smart thing to do? As another poster told you, go sip some
more of your screen name. Get a life while you're at it.

I'm done, you're boring me .

 

no, you're done because you're wrong. "most aftermarket", for honda
anyway, is most definitely /not/ "reboxed oem". you'd know that if you
actually /did/ work "in the auto parts industry".

 

"Most aftermarkets would source the OEM part and rebox that." well, i
guess you're /admitting/ you're ignorant at last.

 

but there was nothing wrong with the distributor cap. the igniter unit
though is deep inside and requires almost complete distributor
disassembly. it's cheaper in terms of man-hours to simply replace the
whole unit.

but you already knew that because you "know about the auto parts
industry" and are just bullshitting for entertainment.

dude, ignorance is one thing. denial is another problem, and that's
your biggest one right now. the failure was the igniters, the changing
pickups were just upgrades to ones that needed less output from the ecu.

indeed i did - because it's true.

here's a quote from an ignorant fraud - you may find it familiar:

"Most aftermarkets would source the OEM part and rebox that."

idiot.

no, you're making mistakes and showing yourself to be a fraud.

 

---The same time you learned to red a parts catalog. Does your company
keep you in the corner with all the other useless stuff?

---The most intelligent thing you said about yourself thus far.

----You haven't capitalized a sentence yet. How is pointing that out
dishonest?

-----The Honda parts books and Quick Reference guides at the time
(yup, the ones you don't know how to read) prove you wrong. While
we're at it, the Honda Labor Guide also proves you wrong:

R&R of the igniter is .9 hours
R&R of the distributor is 1.4 hours.

Are you saying Honda's labor guide is wrong, or that you're just a
complete idiot? Are you saying it's cheaper to give away entire
distributors for free rather than replace the one part that failed?
Hardly, you're an idiot.

-----Well, we've already proven you known nothing about the parts
industry. Must have been all of those blue potato chips you ate as a
kid.

---The Honda parts books and policy prove you wrong. I really doubt
Honda wanted to give out $300+ distributors for free. The parts
sucked. They failed. Honda superseded them multiple times, they still
didn't work. The fix was a new distributor.

---That you're an idiot? Yes, it is true.

----Which proves nothing. Honda was hardly noble in what they did,
which was the point before you opened up your pie hole. In fact, most
failed during the time the cars were under warranty and they replaced
them anyway because it was a warranty item. One of my colleagues at
work had one of those Civics at the time, it wasn't even a year old.

 

----No, it's showing that this discussion is way beyond your first
grade knowledge of the parts industry. Whatever company you're working
for, do us all a favor and warn us which one it is. I'll make sure
not to buy anything from that company or anything it's involved with,
knowing that you're at the helm.

Sure you didn't design those defective ignition parts?

 

On 11/04/2010 06:04 PM, Joe wrote:

well, the book, or what you're saying the book says, is wrong.
replacing he distributor is about 10 minutes real time, say 30 mins shop
time. it's 3 bolts and 4 plug leads.

replacing the igniter, which includes disassembly of the distributor, is
at least 30 minutes real time, let's say 1.30 shop time. that's 3 bolts
for the distributor, 3 screws on the distributor cap, 3 screws on the
heat sink, 2 screws on the igniter, four electrical leads on the
igniter, application of thermal grease on the igniter and heat sink, and
four plug leads. anyone who has actually done this would know.

it was a recall dipshit, so yes, they did give out new $300 distributors
for free.

it didn't suck - i still have an original on my 89, 200k mile civic and
it runs fine. but i have replaced the igniter because the prior owner
never bothered to take it in for the recall. but the recall simply
replaced the whole distributor because it was quicker.

and as you'd know if you had any clue about "the parts industry", all
the take-offs go back to the supplier for reconditioning. so again,
it's not like honda are losing much more than labor, particularly when
tec is the supplier and sharing the burden.

but honda replaced them for free dipshit. and they did it right away
dipshit. frod had to be dragged through the bushes backwards, and it
took nearly 10 years and a state-sponsored lawsuit for them to admit
their obfuscation and negligence.

 

i admire your chutzpah. the guy that sdays "Most aftermarkets would
source the OEM part and rebox that" is truly the master of delusion.

i'm at the helm??? thanks!

no. and i didn't show myself to be an ass by bullshitting about
something i didn't know either.