wiper question

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by aer23, Sep 2, 2003.

  1. aer23

    aer23 Guest

    Hey guys
    New to civics here (always drove toyota LC's) and loving every minute.
    Just bought a 91 civic HB with 44k miles, and its awesome. No speed
    demon, but gets me everywhere I want to go.
    One question though,
    On high speed, the wipers go beyond the bounds of hte glass by about
    ..5 inch in each direction, getting bound up on the down stroke, and
    wiping off the glass on the upstroke.
    If i keep it on low speed, it works just fine, staying in place well,
    but once I go quick, its all over.
    Any ideas?
    thanks guys!
    AER
     
    aer23, Sep 2, 2003
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  2. aer23

    Xavier Guest

    Maybe they are aftermarket? What does the manual or dealer say is standard
    size?
     
    Xavier, Sep 2, 2003
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  3. I have not seen this problem before so can only guess. This idea may or
    may not work. The wipers may have been installed incorrectly. Pull both of
    the wipers off and reinstall one of them. When you slide it into
    place--move it about one inch higher than it is right now. Try it and see
    if this solves the problem. If not, reinstall it about 2 inches higher
    than it is right now. I hope my idea works. If not--I wonder if they
    installed the wrong type of wiper motors on your vehicle.
     
    Bill B. Johnson, Sep 2, 2003
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  4. aer23

    aer23 Guest

    I know what you mean about installing them higher, but they already
    wipe higher on the upstroke when on highspeed, so setting them higher
    would make them go further off the window than it already does.
    Its funny. The cars been serviced by the dealer since day one (i have
    alllll papers on it) and wipers were never replaced.

    I supposed they COULD be too long, but They dont look too long, or
    even longer than other civics I have seen (I checked this ouf first)

    THey only over arch on high speed. Low speed and intermittant stop at
    the right spot, staying on the window just fine....
    Wierd....
    And when I turn them off, they reset to the correct neutral position.
    Its like the momentum is just carrying them too far on high speeed....
    AER
     
    aer23, Sep 2, 2003
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  5. aer23

    w_tom Guest

    Are these the correct wipers (sold in centimeters) or some
    cheap (and overpriced) third party wipers (sold in inches)?
    Quick way to learn. Hondas have two stainless steel ribs
    placed inside wiper blade rubber. Then wiper blade is slid
    into arm. Inferior blades throw away the entire arm and those
    stainless steel ribs so that you will never again be able to
    use superior Honda blades. If the rubber wiper blade has
    plastic stiffeners or feels like dried out rubber, then
    someone so hated the car as to install inferior wiper blades.

    Honda blades last one year or more. Cheap third party
    blades typically last about 3 months. Honda uses superior
    rubber - not cost controls. However if you have the cheap and
    inferior replacement type blades (sold in inches), then go to
    the dealer for new arms that include that superior wiper blade
    and the stainless steel stiffener ribs.
     
    w_tom, Sep 3, 2003
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  6. aer23

    Brian Smith Guest

    Just thought I'd throw in my two cents worth here. I have after market
    Teflon wiper blades on my Accord. They have the metal inserts in the sides
    of the blades. Also, the packages they are sold in
     
    Brian Smith, Sep 3, 2003
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  7. aer23

    w_tom Guest

    Brand name and retail suppliers? Have yet to find a single
    major aftermarket blade that was anything but a result of cost
    control management. Most Hondas have had the good wiper arms
    removed by a gas station, etc who only sell their inferior
    rubber. Also some are so frustrated by bad blades as to
    install two wipers on one arm - rather than get the better
    blade at the dealer.

    It is a problem. Too many of us buy only on price and get
    the wiper blades we deserve.
     
    w_tom, Sep 3, 2003
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  8. aer23

    Brian Smith Guest

    Believe it or not, Motomaster available (obviously) at Canadian Tire. And, I
    was mistaken about the measurements, they are only marked in inches.
     
    Brian Smith, Sep 4, 2003
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  9. aer23

    Tony Hwang Guest

    Hi,
    Gimme a break, do you think Honda is makeing their own blades?
    Tony
     
    Tony Hwang, Sep 5, 2003
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  10. aer23

    N.E.Ohio Bob Guest

    Just how much of the total car do you think the Honda 'makes' ? bob

    Tony Hwang wrote:>
     
    N.E.Ohio Bob, Sep 5, 2003
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  11. aer23

    w_tom Guest

    Tony Hwang's comments are totally irrelevant to this
    discussion. Properly sized wiper blades, that also last
    longer, are sold in the Honda dealer. Defined is how to
    identify Honda blades (sold in centimeters) verses inferior
    third party blades (sold in inches) that would not be properly
    sized - that were too large for the car.
     
    w_tom, Sep 5, 2003
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  12. aer23

    Brian Smith Guest

    The units of measurement of the wiper blade has nothing to do with quality,
    period! To think otherwise is to be considered a fool. Pardon me for being
    blunt, but, that is what you come across as being.
     
    Brian Smith, Sep 5, 2003
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  13. aer23

    w_tom Guest

    Politically correct is polite lying. Blunt is being
    honest. You have not insulted me. You were blunt which means
    being honest. An honorable way to post. Question is also
    quite appropriate.

    Although centimeters verses inches should have no
    relationship, instead many wiper blades sold in inches are
    made with inferior rubber, that dispose of those better Honda
    wiper arms, that last only three months, and that sometimes
    don't quite fit. How dare they. After all, all cars are
    manufactured in centimeters; not inches. But wiper blades
    sold in inches can then use fewer blades to fit more cars.
    Just because they don't quite fit does not matter. And that
    is the original poster's problem. Sounds like he got wiper
    blades sold in inches. Wiper blades sold in centimeters meet a
    more exacting length. Therefore they will be sold to fit that
    car - not approximate for every car.

    Other numbers should also not mean reliability. But they
    do. For example, cars with higher quality have engines of
    about 70 Hp per liter. Higher failure engines (that also make
    more noise) typically do 52 Hp per liter. Performance should
    not be a measure of reliability. However there is a strong
    relationship between higher performance and reliability.

    It even gets more interesting. The low performance 48 and
    52 Hp per liter engines also are attached to cars that tend to
    eat tires faster. Better cars average 70,000 miles per first
    tire set. Lower performance do more like 40,000 miles - and
    often require periodic wheel alignment. Also those lower
    performance vehicles tend to wander more on the highway;
    periodic steering wheel adjustments necessary after maybe
    three expansion joints. Why would steering be related to
    performance? It tends to.

    There should be no relationship between wipers sold in
    inches and those in centimeters. But those sold in inches
    more often don't quite fit. There should be no relationship
    between engine performance and tire wear. But there is.

    In the meantime, Tony Hwang's comment still remain totally
    irrelevant to how wiper blades fit a Honda.

    Looking forward to an honest (blunt) response.
     
    w_tom, Sep 6, 2003
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  14. aer23

    Brian Smith Guest

    Thank you.
    What fact do you have to prove this point?
    I thought you were talking about the blades, but, here you mention the arms.
    I truly don't see a problem with the unit of measure. I have had many
    vehicles through my life, and have never (to my knowledge) purchased a pair
    of wiper blades, that were packaged as being measured in the metric unit.
    Okay, a larger engine doesn't have to work as hard as a smaller engine, to
    maintain the same speed.
    In this case I would have to say that (in my opinion), the quality of the
    tires is the reason that some tires out perform/last longer than others. The
    same can be said of the steering components.
    As I stated above, I have never experienced this.
    The main relationship could be said to be; how hard the driver of the
    vehicle, stands on the go pedal.
    To a certain point, yes. But, you (I believe it was you) sounded as if,
    Honda made the blades themselves.
    That's it for me tonight, work in the morning.
     
    Brian Smith, Sep 6, 2003
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  15. aer23

    Tony Hwang Guest

    Hi,
    On any car, only major component is designed and manufactured by
    manufacturer. (NGK) spark plug, (Nippon Denso) alternator, starter,
    glass, rims, seats, suspension, do you think Honda makes them all?
    Parts makers make them per Honda spec. like any other manufacturers.
    Then they put Honda stamp. Heard of Exedy clutch? Major Japanese
    OEM cluth maker.
    Tony
     
    Tony Hwang, Sep 6, 2003
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  16. aer23

    Tony Hwang Guest

    Hi,
    Exactly, when I go buy a set of blades, I take old ones off and
    get the same dimension ones. Like anything else, you get what you
    pay for. I got an impresson, "Honda blade or else sentiment"
    If after market, third party parts are all inferior, how can they
    stay in busisness? Again, you get what you pay for.
    Tony
     
    Tony Hwang, Sep 6, 2003
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