Won't start

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by joffrebabe, Nov 16, 2005.

  1. joffrebabe

    joffrebabe Guest

    My 1990 Honda Civic stalled and now won't start.No warning lights came on
    and there was no previous trouble.It sounds like it wants to start but it
    just won't turn over.Please help me. I need my car for work as I live out
    of town.
     
    joffrebabe, Nov 16, 2005
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  2. joffrebabe

    Remco Guest

    Could be many things. Rather than bouncing questions back and forth,
    delaying you even more, check out www.tegger.com
    Check out the section on not starting.

    If you then are still stuck, report back.

    Remco
     
    Remco, Nov 16, 2005
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  3. ...but go buy a new ignitor anyway.

    --Gene
     
    Gene S. Berkowitz, Nov 16, 2005
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    Please clarify . . you say engine won't 'turn over' but still sounds
    like it wants to start ? ? ? You mean it's turning over but not firing
    up? Was it moving at the time? Was it sitting long before you tried to
    start again? What's the mileage and what year was the timing belt last
    replaced? If you're the least bit handy, open the oil filler cap and
    look inside to see if anything moves inside while you 'turn over' the
    engine. You'll need a flashlight. Don't use a match or you'll be asking
    for help at another newsgroup :-(

    'Curly'
     
    'Curly Q. Links', Nov 16, 2005
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    Remco Guest

    True -- that could very well be the cause, but without even looking at
    it, it would be impossible to say that.
    I wouldn't want him to run out and get an $80 ignitor to find out that
    just a fuse is blown...

    Just go through the suggestions. You'll figure it out.
     
    Remco, Nov 16, 2005
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    Graham W Guest

    An ignitor won't stop the engine turning over! It sounds like the battery
    can't supply enough ummph or the starter motor is not turning over.

    As Remco said - check out the FAQ site - highly recommended.
     
    Graham W, Nov 16, 2005
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    ass Guest

    tire oil too low?
     
    ass, Nov 16, 2005
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  8. joffrebabe

    joffrebabe Guest

    I had just driven it all over town, then it acted like it was going to
    stall just when I pulled into the gas station,it did stall, so i put gas
    in it and then tried to start it. No luck? The engine is turning over but
    won't fire.The year is 1990, the mileage is 290,000kms and I don't know
    when the timing belt was replaced, just bought it at end of Aug.
     
    joffrebabe, Nov 16, 2005
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    Elle Guest

    You gotta dive in here and start doing some checking.

    Have you tried to start the car since it first stalled? If
    not, please try again right now.

    To check the timing belt, have an assistant try to start the
    car and then do what Curly said: With a flashlight and
    peering into the oil filler cap hole, look for movement.
    Report back.

    The next candidates for this year Honda are the igniter and
    coil, both part of the distributor assembly. Are you handy
    or not? You first want to check for spark. Google if you
    don't know how. If there's no spark, then there are tests
    you can do on the igniter that should nail whether it's
    failed or not. Post whether you want more info on these
    tests. The coil is a little trickier but since they tend to
    go slowly, I don't think it's the coil. Start with the
    igniter tests.

    You should consider a complete replacement of the following,
    since you don't know their age and they're all due within a
    few years, anyway, and you don't want them interfering with
    your diagnosis efforts above:
    Air filter
    Fuel filter
    Spark plugs
    Ignition wires
    Distributor Cap
    Distributor Rotor

    Buy only OEM for all of these, except the air filter.

    Lastly for now, since you don't know the age of the timing
    belt, soon you should replace it. Failure of timing belts
    can do expensive damage to your car's engine.


    --
    Honda home studies: http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness
    --


    of Aug.
     
    Elle, Nov 16, 2005
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  10. joffrebabe

    joffrebabe Guest

    Thanx Elle, my hubby did the timing belt test and seems ok.he would like
    more info on how to check the coil and igniter. Thanx again.
     
    joffrebabe, Nov 16, 2005
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    Elle Guest

    The following sites are very helpful on igniters and coils.
    Both describe how to check for spark, which is probably
    where you should resume your diagnosing efforts, assuming
    you've replaced the basic tuneup items below or feel really
    confident that they're in good repair.

    http://techauto.te.funpic.org/index.php?content=Ignition#key
    (better-organized but perhaps not as detailed as the next
    site)

    http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/startproblems.html#basics

    www.autozone.com has free online repair manuals for the 1990
    Civic. Register, then click on "Repair Info," then "Vehicle
    Repair Guides." Click on car year, make, and model, etc. Go
    to the engine electrical section, IIRC. There are tests
    there for at least the coil, but I think it's only a
    resistance test, and that does not necessarily yield enough
    info to make a full diagnosis.

    What's the status of all those other items I listed (air
    filter, fuel filter, plugs, wires, distributor cap and
    rotor)? Any idea how old the parts are? OEM parts or not?
    Take all these seriously. You could have something as simple
    as very fouled spark plugs. Or maybe your ignition wires
    just need replacement. If you have a digital multimeter, you
    can easily check their resistance and eliminate them as
    being a part of the problem or THEE problem. You don't know
    this car's history, since you just bought it in August, so
    be methodical and willing to spend a little money on these
    basic items (air filter, fuel filter, etc.) to get it up to
    snuff. You're going to have to replace these items in the
    next few years anyway. If it was reasonably well taken care
    of, you should get another 100k miles out of it.

    Elle
    Original owner, 1991 Honda Civic LX, 172k miles.
     
    Elle, Nov 17, 2005
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    AZ Nomad Guest

    1) the coil can test good and be bad
    2) replace the ignitor when you didn't have to and you've wasted more
    than the cost of a mechanic to trouble shoot the system perform another
    45 minutes labor.
    a source of junkyard parts can help
     
    AZ Nomad, Nov 17, 2005
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