Wrong VIN on the car ?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Harry, Jul 14, 2007.

  1. Harry

    Harry Guest

    My 1999 Accord has the VIN 1HGCG1650WA5001
    It is an American made Honda but bought in Uruguay (South America).

    In any American Honda page that asks for the VIN number I get as
    answer that it is a non valid VIN. At the Honda Transmission
    Settlement page it responds the same.

    Why is that if the car has been made in the USA?

    Thanks for any help and regards, Harry
     
    Harry, Jul 14, 2007
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  2. Harry

    DodgeDriver Guest

    You are two characters shy of having a complete VIN. The format is 17
    characters and you have only 15. You need two more numbers. The last 4
    must be numbers.
     
    DodgeDriver, Jul 14, 2007
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  3. It doesn't matter where the car was made. What matters is what market
    the car was built for and sold in.

    It may be American made, but it sounds like a South American Honda.

    You say that "in any American Honda page that asks for the VIN..."
    Well, American Honda doesn't sell cars in Uruguay. That VIN is not one
    that American Honda "bought" from Honda corporate, or placed into
    service. It is not one that they have any responsibility for warranty
    work, parts, recalls, etc.

    If you want to know about Hondas that were sold in Uruguay, find the web
    site for the South American Honda distributor. American Honda won't be
    able to help you.

    Let me ask you this: if your Honda were built in Canada, for example,
    would you expect the Canadian distributor to take ownership of it
    throughout its life?

    Where it's built has nothing to do with which distributor owns
    responsibility for the car.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Jul 14, 2007
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  4. Harry

    jim beam Guest

    make that the _six_ digits being numbers.
     
    jim beam, Jul 14, 2007
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  5. Harry

    jim beam Guest

    make that the _six_ digits being numbers.
     
    jim beam, Jul 14, 2007
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  6. Harry

    Tegger Guest



    Because where it's made has nothing to do with the VIN. The VIN is
    specially constructed only for your market.

    There are VIN constructions unique to Europe, Asia, North America, and I'm
    sure Africa as well.

    Honda builds its worldwide cars wherever it's most convenient for them to
    do so. When car are built for other markets, they are called "export"
    models. These cars are made to that "export" market's
    safety/emissions/lighting/VIN standards.
     
    Tegger, Jul 15, 2007
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  7. Shoot! Between US and Canada as well!

    I go to get parts for my Supra and they look at me and say, No such car!

    I explain it's Canadian, and then they access a different system, and
    SOMETIMES it shows up!
     
    Hachiroku ハチロク, Jul 15, 2007
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  8. Harry

    Tegger Guest

    =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <>
    wrote in


    That too, yes. But on Hondas it's usually just one digit reserved for
    telling a Canadian car over a US one. Otherwise the VINs are identical.

    In other markets, the VIN digits can mean totally different things, and
    the VIN is of different lengths.

    Also, the VIN number in some markets is in a different place on the car
    from the US/Canadian one.



    The Honda system in the US is able to decode Canadian VINs and locate
    the correct parts.

    I do believe the Canadian system can do US VINs as well, but I'd have to
    check.
     
    Tegger, Jul 15, 2007
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  9. Harry

    Harry Guest

    Elmo,

    when I buy a Car I do not buy it because of the nice face of the
    person that it selling it to me.
    I expect the distributor to give me good customer support and also
    Honda (the one that makes the car) shoul be responsable for it.

    My car was made in the US to be commercialized in Uruguay.
    If they accept Honda Uruguay to sell their cars they are asumming
    responsability for that. They know exactly that Honda Uruguay tells
    their customers that their Cars have been made by Honda US and that is
    why people buy it. Otherwise thay should not sell their cars here.

    If I get that kind of problem whith a german Car I know somebody from
    Customer Support is going to Contact me directly from Germany (by
    phone) to know if they are well represented in Uruguay and if the
    problem is being solved by their representatives-distributors.

    When I let my IBM computer be repaired by the official service here in
    Uruguay sometimes I get a phonecall directly from IBM headquarters,
    ONE YEAR after the repair has been made to let them know if I am
    pleased with the service they gave me here in Uruguay.

    Another example is what happend to Mattel Toys made in China.
    Distributors are doing what the Brand tells them to do.

    That is what I call customer support.


    Honda Uruguay told me that they need acceptance from Honda America.
    And Honda America says that this is Honda Uruguay's problem.

    Regards, Harry
     
    Harry, Aug 20, 2007
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  10. So the car was manufactured in the US. It might as well have been
    manufactured in Toronto, or in Japan somewhere.

    Where it was manufactured has nothing to do with who supports it. It is
    manufactured by Honda, then sold to and distributed by the local Honda
    organization.

    For example, I owned a 92 Civic Si. Built in Toronto, Canada. Built
    specifically for the US market, with a US VIN. Sold to me by a dealer,
    who acquired it from American Honda Motor Manufacturing, Inc. American
    Honda Motor Manufacturing is the manufacturer of record, and they hold
    responsibility for warranting the car to be free from manufacturer
    defects for 36 months/36,000 miles.

    The Canadian distributing arm does NOT hold that responsibility, even
    though the car was manufactured in Canada.



    no, Honda Uruguay is assuming all responsibility as the manufacturer of
    record.

    What if my 92 Civic Si were built in Uruguay specifically to be sold in
    the US? Would I then go to Honda Uruguay and demand that they take care
    of me? No. That would be silly. Honda Uruguay has nothing to do with
    me. American Honda has total responsibility.

    That's the structure Honda has set up. Accept it, deal with it, and
    move on with your life.


    Honda Uruguay is trying to blow you off. Take it up with them.

    The parent corporation, Honda in Japan, set up the structure whereby
    Honda Uruguay as the distributor of record takes all responsibility for
    the car.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Aug 20, 2007
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