XM Radio as a dealer option for the Civic?

Discussion in 'Civic' started by Thomas Cooke, May 29, 2004.

  1. Thomas Cooke

    Thomas Cooke Guest

    I have a question if anyone can answer it. I am planning on buying a new
    Civic in 2005, and although I know that the Accord has the XM Radio standard
    on the EX V6, it is optional on the other models as a dealer option, but I
    was wondering if this is true also for the Civic? I want XM, but don't want
    to buy it aftermarket, because I will probably be leasing and don't want to
    modify the car other than what the dealer modifies. I just don't know where
    the control unit would fit so I was wondering if anyone has some ideas?

    Thanks.
     
    Thomas Cooke, May 29, 2004
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  2. Thomas Cooke

    mike Guest

    circuit city will supposedly remove stuff installed by them for free at end
    of lease. just something to consider...
     
    mike, May 29, 2004
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  3. Thomas Cooke

    SAC 441 Guest

    I bought a new 2003 Civic EX and was told by my dealer anyway that XM is
    NOT offered as an option on the Civic line.I installed it aftermarket
    anyway.My experience is it depends on where you are and who the dealer
    is whether this is offered or not.It could be a DEALER option,but it is
    definitely not a FACTORY option.In other words,it definitely will have
    to be added after purchase whether the dealer does it,or you do it
    independently is my understanding.Either that,or by the next line up an
    ACCORD model.
    Having said that,things DO CHANGE.If you wait long enough,it could
    eventually be offered in a future year model.It was not offered as a
    factory option in the 2003 and 2004 models......I do not know about
    2005.
     
    SAC 441, May 29, 2004
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  4. Thomas Cooke

    NJSS Guest

    I would recommend getting the Roady or, better yet, the upcoming Roady2 from
    Delphi.

    Once you get into XM radio, you won't want it to be limited to your car.

    The product sells itself. It is hard to believe that civilization existed
    without it.
    JIMBO
     
    NJSS, May 29, 2004
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  5. Thomas Cooke

    TomP Guest

    The biggest problem with XM radio after thought installs, is, some use FM
    modulation to access the car's stereo system. Some of the earlier Honda
    accessory systems used FM modulation... not so good.

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    TomP, May 29, 2004
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  6. Thomas Cooke

    SAC 441 Guest

    Yes,FM modulation is not as good as a native signal through a good sound
    system.But in my humble opinion,the FACTORY CD/FM sound system that is
    put into a Honda Civic is just plain horrible.My guess is they put a
    bargain basement brand into the vehicles and buy them in wholesale
    lots.It sounded tinny and no amount of tweaking them with the audio
    controls will make it sound any better.
    Using FM modulation is just fine with the crappy speakers they put in
    Civics.I was not going to waste good money adding a high end XM receiver
    without replacing the speakers,a major hassle from the way they are
    installed,and a good deal of money too to put in a Civic.Because of the
    lower quality system in a Civic,FM modulation is easier and less cost to
    install and use on such a low end system.
     
    SAC 441, May 29, 2004
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  7. Thomas Cooke

    Thomas Cooke Guest

    I had an accord 99' and found the audio system to be very good FM/CD. I
    should assume the 2005 Accord audios are also good?
     
    Thomas Cooke, May 29, 2004
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  8. Thomas Cooke

    SAC 441 Guest

    Thomas Cooke wrote;
    ----"I had an accord 99' and found the audio system to be very good
    FM/CD.I should assume the 2005 Accord audios are also good?"----


    Reply:
    I do not know about ACCORDS.The OP asked about CIVICS.The Accord audio
    systems could be better.All I know is the FACTORY INSTALLED audio
    systems in Honda Civics IN MY OPINION are not very good.I was making
    reference to another poster in this thread with respect to XM satellite
    radio and the utilization of FM modulated add-on equipment.My reply was
    that I found it adequate for the low-end audio in a CIVIC.An ACCORD
    model is considered to be the next level up in the Honda heirarchy and
    could well have a better audio system.In which case,you would not want a
    FM demodulator.
     
    SAC 441, May 29, 2004
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  9. Thomas Cooke

    lcopps Guest

    One reason I opted for the Accord was the very impressive 6 speaker
    sound system. Its probibly the best stock sound system I have heard. The
    Factory XM is offered on the EX with the leather package. 4 or 6
    cylinder. If you have the Navi, XM works with voice commands and
    utilizes the dash display and Audio screen in the Navi to display the
    artist and song title.
     
    lcopps, Jun 5, 2004
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  10. Thomas Cooke

    NJSS Guest

    Basically, there are five ways to get the XM signal into your stereo.

    1) FM Modulator. I've tried several and the $30 Delphi unit seems to work best.
    Advantages: Simple, cheap. Disadvantages: Picks up interference from other
    sources. XM will break up in the really big metro areas and especially at
    higher elevations within them, due to a clearer signal coming in from competing
    'stations' at the same frequency. I've had problem around Chicago and on the
    Garden State Parkway bridge over the Raritan River, where both NYC and Phila
    stations at coming in. Also, the FM mod. is limited to FM's bandwidth as set by
    the FCC. It is something like 50-12,000 cycles.

    The Roady2, due out next month, will have its FM mod built-in.

    2) Cassette adapter: Here you are limited by the bandwidth of your cassette
    player, probably similar to FM

    3) Front panel 'aux' input. This works the best, but few units have front panel
    jacks.

    4) CD input, usually on the back of the stereo unit. This has bandwidth equal
    to the front, but may require professional help.

    5) On some Pioneer units, you can somehow 'reverse' the pre-amp output and
    convert it into a auxilliary input with a special bus adapter.
    JIMBO
     
    NJSS, Jun 11, 2004
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