you think chery is next honda?

IMHO the Avalanche has an excuse; it can tow. It might make an
excellent "fifth wheeler." But the Ridgeline...yuppie trucklet.

Gross vehicle weight reveals how poor a design Element is. Probably
serves well as an urban light delivery vehicle.

Chasing these "trucklet" niches is exactly the wrong course. All the
engineering and marketing resources squandered on this stuff detracts
from Honda cars. Heavy vehicles with indifferent handling that require
engines with lots of low-end torque is the antithesis of what made
Honda a great car company.

I couldn't agree more with the comment re. getting rid of the strut
suspension. Gotta go back to wishbones, drop the hood and cowl to
provide the visibility we all loved.

 

That, plus how little capacity it can hold. 800 pounds is the capacity
limit. That's not even 4 guys. Shoot, after I put myself, my wife, my
two kids, and our stuff in it, it's at the limit.

I saw that and begged off.

 

if all you wanna do is haul a couple dirt bikes to the desert, itll do
that. not many people tow anything, ever.

seems to work for scion.

 

Well, yeah. You filled it up and it's at the limit. If you think of
it as a small station wagon or a micro-minivan, its not bad. If you
need a truck then it isn't going to work for you.

Jeep Commander weighs over 5200 pounds and only carries 1100 even
though it carries seven cattle-fed passengers.

RAV4 capacity is 825 pounds and that has to include the weight of the
third row seat which allows it to carry seven passengers, although I
think two of them have to be pretty small to fit.

Personally I wish that Honda and Toyota would build a large station
wagon. Not Country Squire big but more like Volvo 240 big. Could be
built off Accord or Camry platform with performance, luxury and
economy versions. Must have generous cargo capacity and a much lower
roof line than all of these stupid trucks.

 

Well, yeah. You filled it up and it's at the limit. If you think of
it as a small station wagon or a micro-minivan, its not bad. If you
need a truck then it isn't going to work for you.[/QUOTE]

4 guys in a 4 seat vehicle and it's overloaded? And it's something the
size of the Element?

That means it's BADLY designed.

 

Except for the last part, they think they do: Highlander and Pilot.

 

4 guys in a 4 seat vehicle and it's overloaded? And it's something the
size of the Element?

That means it's BADLY designed.[/QUOTE]

everyone thinks so negatively towards these chinese cars..why?

china is posed to be the next superpower and is pumping top companies
in every sector..its natural...
so its natural to say in the next few years...it is inevitable for
chinese auto makers like chery to become AT LEAST AS bIG AS KIA and
other korean manufacturers and in maybe 20 years...overtake US and
japanese makers.
http://www.chinacarforums.com