Your suggestoin for a SUV

OK Tony, good deal! Just checking. ;-D

 

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Tony

 

Funny, so do I. Are certain fingers unable to spell correctly?

 

Have you driven a Ford lately

(ducking for cover)

 

No, they just take the easy way out or poke the wrong key, why?

 

Best SUV for the buck: Nissan Xterra.

 

Hey kid, its not that they want to, its "that they can" and its also
none of your buisness what they do with something they paid for with
their own money. You are a minorty, SUV's are popular!

 

Tony, they may think the same of you. You have probably formed that
opinion by reading too much anti SUV post is all. When SUV's stop
selling, they will stop making them.

 

FWIW:
SUVs account for half of all cars being sold, someone must like them

 

That is strange since SUVs aren't cars, they are trucks.

Let's see what are their disadvantages:
They have far more roll-over fatalitites than any other vehicle.
They cause far more fatalities than any other vehicle.
They don't meet the safety requirements cars must meet.

And their advantages:
They are big.

 

Yes, but a higher center of gravity, it is to be expected, but that
would be a driver error. Did you know more Semis jacknife than SUV's?

Cause? Notice the word cause. Truth is, your more likely to survive and
accident if your in an SUV.

Did you know your more likely to die in an accident if your in an
econobox? Its true!

Yeah, you just said they are not cars. I bet your econoshit box dont
meet the same towing standards an SUV does either. See the stupid logic
here. Something that needs to be strong for heavy work wont have crumple
zones like a unibody vs full frame, DUH!

Can haul an entire family all at once.

Tow a camp trailer to go camping and the entire family.

Has 4WD (in most) and can be used in winter weather better than a 2 wd car.

Can tow a boat for skiing.

Take the soccer team out for icecream.

More likely to survive if your in one and in an accident.

Haul a utility trailer which can carry items like landscape supplies, ie
crushed rock, beauty bark and building supplies lumber, sheetrock.

Can do lots with one rig instead of buying a fleet of vehicles, one for
going to work (econo), one for hauling supplies, one for towing a trailer...

An SUV does it all. I wonder if thats what the "utility" meand in SUV?
Ya think?


I think we should start calling econoshitboxes NUV's, meaning non
utility vehicle.


Like we said, 50% of cars sold are SUV's, so apparently they are in
demand. A little socialist like yourself who is always telling others
what to drive is a waste of time. People buy them because they want or
need them, not becasue they saw your pathetic little post on a newsgroup!

 

Clearly FALSE. A "jackknife" requires the presence of a trailer.
The raw numbers *obviously* show there are more semi-trucks pulling
trailers at any given moment on interstates than there are trailer
pulling SUV's. Your argument is analogous to "more white people are
on wellfare than are Blacks." Well DUH. Blacks account for
what.... 15% of the population?
--

Philip

"If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all
tending
the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to be
wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
- John Locke (1632-1704)

 

An articulated SUV ?? shudder !!!! bound to happen sooner or later tho : )

Stuart Gray.

 

While that may be statisticly true, 'far more' is meaningless
since only a very small percentage of accidents involve a
roll over.

They may be statisticly true as well but it is because they carry
an average higher number of passengers. In the real world
properly belted passengers in a large vehicle are much less
likely to be killed or severely injured than similarly belted
passengers in a smaller vehicle. That is the reason insurance
companies offer LOWER rates for SUV than small FWD cars.

Now that is NOT true. All 'light tucks' which includes most
SUV's, must meet the SAME NHTSA crash standards as cars.

In any event if I believed as you do, I would not buy an SUV,
if I were you.


mike hunt

 

Isn't it strange that the control freaks are now so concerned
about SUV's that seat up to eight, yet they said nothing when
the same truck chassis carried a body that only seated three with
a box behind the cab or the car based SUV's that now carry up to
six, an inch and a half higher than when the same chassis carried
only four people as a car? LOL



mike hunt

 

Philip, it was by design, I was illustrating absurdity by being absurd.
The original socialist poster had mentioned how an SUV is more likely to
roll over.

 

The SUV by design IS more likely to roll over. What am I missing?
--

Philip

"If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all tending
the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to be
wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
- John Locke (1632-1704)

 

Nothing, you got it. You just said the SUV by desing is more likely to
roll over. AND I commented by saying a semi is more likely to jacknife. ;-)

 

Ok then, the SUV/semi truck comparison is still faulty until you put an
equal number of SUVs pulling trailers and semi-trucks on the road year
round and in all weather conditions. I'll put money on SUVs pulling
trailers having more jackknifes per million miles traveled because SUVs
are lighter, driven faster, and have less skilled drivers who are out to
have fun instead in their own rig vs. driving a company truck for a
living. >:^)
--

Philip

"If a long train of abuses, prevarications, and artifices, all tending
the same way, make the design visible to the people . tis not to be
wondered that they should then rouse themselves."
- John Locke (1632-1704)

 

I would guess that the reason that "they said nothing" might have been that
pickup trucks were far less common then, compared to the numbers of ext cab
p/u and full sized SUV's on the road now. Automakers marketing (driven by
their profit margins) is a big cause of the proliferation of SUV's. They've
made them 'cool' and 'sexy'. Does anyone remeber how cool and sexy a 1984
Chevrolet Suburban was back then? Nil and none. They were few and far
between.

CAFE regulations have also played a large role by basically forcing domestic
auto makers to stop production of V* powered rear wheel drive large
vehicles. CAFE has a loophole for light trucks, which SUV's are classified
as. In reality, most SUVs are used as cars (daily transportation). Just
look around on the road.

I don't believe in gov;t regs on what we can buy. You buy your SUV and I'll
buy my 250 hp sedan.

CHEERS.


or the car based SUV's that now carry up to